Don’t often comment here, though I often visit. Really like the illustration style, but can’t help but say that it looks like a cow 69ing a pig…which I suppose is quite fresh in one sense…
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iramo | December 5th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
again 3am 3ala2 or senan… great job and my best wishes… guys u r the real hard workers in publicis…
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Zeid Nasser (Admin) | December 5th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
This is absolute garbage. Is this the way to sell cheap airline tickets? A lactating cow?
Don’t know whether to blame the creatives that dished this up or the blind client.
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biteme | December 6th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
Gibbo…obviously you have little experience as to what low cost carriers do to sell tickets. Need a visual that catches attention and a related headline…or they follow a text only approach. But since you probably have the experience to share your opinion, more power to you:) Mike’s comment is just settling in right now:)
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Gibbo | December 6th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
I do have experience in the airline business actually for your information biteme.
I agree with an exciting headline, interesting visual etc… but cmon have a look at this ad. I mean a lactating cow? How the hell is that relevant?
Cow jizz all over the page. Not much appetite appeal there.
absolutely garish.
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fred | December 6th, 2007 at 5:00 pm
Biteme or Amre Husseini the CEO of Publicis,
Stop defending this pile of steaming cow turd.
This will not sell one friggin seat.
If the image of a client’s ad is a refection of it’s product then this a large fat slow cow of an airline that would never get off the ground.
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Fred | December 6th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
Biteme or Amre Hussieni from Publicis.
Stop defending this pile of cow turd.
This won;t sell a friggin seat.
If a clients ad is a refection of his product then this is a big fat slow cow of an airline that will never get off the ground.
Jazeera pretty much sells out Fred, no tickets always and they are the most successful and this is me being honest, I work for a competitive agency of Publicis and I’m saying that so get a life
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biteme | December 7th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
Hi Fred..Biteme has been the name I’m using onine for quite sometime now and everyone knows who I am, but you are FRED who? Defending a pile of cow turd for an airline that will never get off the ground…lets see from 8 A320s to 50 A320s in 5 years, consistently high sales and yield + great response to the advertisement (tracked vs. sales) sorry you lose Fred
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biteme | December 7th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Gibbo, what I said was “experience with what low cost carriers do to sell tickets”…just a quick question to you (for the sake of debate solely, dont get me wrong) “how is water relevant to telecommunications, how is a flower relevant to a bank or how is a bubble relevant to an airplane?” It’s not visual relevance its association to messaging that clicks with a target and attracts their attention generating a call for action. Whether you see it as a pig 69ing a cow or cow jizz that’s your call, but it’s not creatively wrong as is the case with the 7 that was recently flipped wrongly on a JT ad is it?
By the way I don’t want to get involved in a slanging match. I’m here just to talk about the ads that are posted.
The imagery we use either has to be related, or has to convey a feeling that we want associated with our products (like you said Biteme).
My point with this particular execution is that it gives me a very negative feeling about the brand.Cmon, that is undeniable. Its a very weak link having a headline that says fresh and showing this illustration. It is tacky to the extreme. It looks like a concept you put up not expecting it to go anywhere and then the client actually buys it.
Bad advertising slips through a lot in this market and this would have to top the cake. Sounds like a great client with a great product. This surely is not the best the agency could have done. If it is, I’d be worried. Give this brief to 10 agencies in the region and see what they would come up with.
No-one is backing up the creative here because it is terrible. Doesnt matter who you work for to know that.
G.
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Hans Anderson Abu Dhabi | December 11th, 2007 at 8:02 am
Totally agree Gibbo.
Spot on.
Without doubt the worst ad I’ve ever seen.
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Fred | December 12th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
Biteme = Moey =Amre…your writing style gives you away everytime.
You can throw as many made up stats and figures you like at this nothing will take away the fact that this is ad is a real stinker. What…can I ask has Freshness got to do with a low airfare? And then…wait for it… what does a fat,poorly executed, old fashioned cartoon of a cow that’s just given birth to his udder got to do with Freshness?
Hey Zied…here’s an idea… maybe we can run an award every year for ads like this and call it the the “Golden Turd award”
That way the second rated agency can come first for a change.
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Zeid Nasser (Admin) | December 13th, 2007 at 10:06 am
Aggressive !
Any response Biteme?
(PS. Actually Moey is a real person)
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biteme | December 13th, 2007 at 1:28 pm
Bite me = Amre not Moey though…sorry, but as we asked before who are you Peter. Fresh Fares implies new fares, and now the cow is poorly executed. Great, I have a feeling I know who Fred is, and my understanding is that soon we will be waving bye bye to him as he departs Jordan and stops deteriorating its creative output.
Yet your comments show your maturity and all I can say is thank you for them…
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Zeid Nasser (Admin) | December 13th, 2007 at 1:32 pm
Also Aggressive.
So, Fred, any truth to the statement Fred=Peter?
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biteme | December 13th, 2007 at 2:39 pm
I think you are the one to best answer that Zeid
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Fred | December 13th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Peter is “creative rules” everybody knows that.
Close but no cigar.
And by the way his record of winning the most awards ever in two consecutive Jordan advertising awards and being CD of the only agency in Jordan to have work accepted in the Lynx awards clearly speaks for it self.
Sounds like an extremely positive creative output to me.
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Zeid Nasser (Admin) | December 13th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
Actually that’s not correct.
As any commentor can see, you must fill in a screen name plus an email (which remains hidden from public).
Only users who fill in the URL, or place their email address by mistake or on purpose in the URL field can be visible.
Check out the comments on this post by Moey or Kaz or North55 and you’ll get their URLs.
Looking at the emails I get (the hidden ones like Fred) most of them are not real, as the system accepts anything with a @.
May I point out that even if the email was real and determined the identity of a person, it is my moral responsibility not to reveal it or use the info any way.
Therefore, my personal neutrality in the industry (I don’t work for or own an ad agency) and my demonstrated online credibility here since January 2006 enables people to enjoy their time at AdBlogArabia and trust that whoever’s work they criticize and whatever comment they place; it’s going to appear!
The same cannot be said of all ad blogs.
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Gibbo | December 13th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Hey Biteme,
I think this ad is doing a great job of “deterioating the creative output” of Jordan. If this isn’t the biggest piece of ‘codswollop’ polluting the media, I’d love to know what is.
Where are the creatives defending this? There’s a lot of personal attacks but no-one is defending the work, cos it sucks.
If you can’t do any better than this Publicis, get a new team.
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amer | December 13th, 2007 at 4:06 pm
Guys, the idea is really good, but the art direction realla really sucksssss… something wrong with communication….
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amjad | December 13th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
Hi everybody,
nice idea, bad art direction, also the ad is busy you dont know where to look at…
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biteme | December 13th, 2007 at 6:50 pm
Hey Fred you seem to know a lot about Peter and seem to be following in his foot steps by giving him credit rather than the team that works for him, so what’s going on between you guys? Also note that ADPRO and PG were regionally recognized and won regional and one or international awards well before Dubai Lynx as did FP7:) While your cozmo work entered into Lynx, was only a finalist and didnt actually win anything…So please get your facts straight.
Gibbo, not going to get into this with you, cause you’ve obviously got issues.
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biteme | December 13th, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Oh and one more thing Fred, where were you on the blog regarding the incorrect usage of the Arabic letter 7 (whoops), We didnt hear much from Y&R about that one? it’s on http://www.moeys.net if you want to check it out…
hahah thanks bitme, let me give him the exact link and btw, I work for a respected agency in Jordan and was in one in Kuwait and will go somewhere else in 2 years, I’m AN UNDERGRADUATE!
You’re not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you?
First of all if you bother to go back and read my post you’ll see that there was no reference to winning an award at Lynx. Simply the only agency in Jordan to have work ‘Accepted’ which, in itself is a pretty good achievement considering how tough it is just to get in.
So it’s you who should get your facts right.
Secondly if the creative output is ‘deteriorated’ as you say then how come you’re always coming a distant second to it all the time?
What does that say about you that you can’t even beat someone that produces deteriorating work?
Seriously Amre you really should think before you post next time. That way you can avoid embarrasing yourself and (from what I’m told) your staff as well.
But far more importantly, don’t you have better things to do with your time than constantly visit every blog you can where you post misleading facts and figures, false accusations and spread stupid rumours? My God. These Blogs are primarily for creative people to share work with each other and get some honest feedback. Your time is better spent trying to be a good manager and do real things like: spend time with your clients, build relationships, win new business and try to lift the moral of your staff.
And please, please try to have nothing to do with the creative product. If the above is what you believe is great work stand back, stop hogging all the glory and allow your creative people to grow and develop. You have two very good Creative directors there let them creative direct.
Here’s a thought, perhaps you should start a blog for managers. That way you can post as many false facts and figures you like and everyone on your blog might believe them and be impressed by them.
Go away close your computer and get a friggin life for Chrissakes!!!!
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biteme | December 15th, 2007 at 11:56 pm
Fred, or Peter or whatever you wish to call yourself. Thank you for your statements and although as usual you turn things into personal attacks (like when you blamed PG for your upside down 7) they go to prove your personality and desire to take credit where credit is not due. You are incorrect we have three amazin associate creative directors (not two) and all are extremely talented and are managing a great team.
Regarding being a distant second…take a look at growth and feel how distant it really is:)
Finally, last time I checked, this wasnt your blog and till you come out and admit who you really are, I dont think you have a right to judge who says what where and when.
By the way when are you leaving Jordan?
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Fred | December 16th, 2007 at 9:33 am
Pathetic response.
Yawn.
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biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 10:35 am
Once again switch and belittle the subject to protect yourself mr. sharp knife…go away now!
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Fred | December 16th, 2007 at 11:28 am
Yawn.
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biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 12:09 pm
what dont have any briefs to work on? Or are you managing it so your team does all the work?
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Gibbo | December 16th, 2007 at 12:09 pm
Biteme,
I have “issues” with blokes like you and the garbage that your agency puts out.
You dont wanna get involved with me and defend the creative? Thats all I’m asking. I’m not arguing about credentials or who has the biggest c#%k.
Defend this work.
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biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
Gibbo, and I have issues with blokes who conceal their identity. I did defend this creative vs. the results it generated and you didnt want to accept that. If you want to keep this civil we can debate it, I did say that yes it was heavy on the text, but i did defend the visual relevance to you and the message, but you dont want to read or listen, what else am I supposed to do. All your statements were not about creative or message, read back and see what I mean.
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Gibbo | December 16th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
Biteme/ Lions rules/ Commentator or whoever you are today… What an easy target you all are.
Unlike you, I have always kept to the same username, so the only issue that you have with people concealling their identity is with yourself.
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biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 1:50 pm
Bite me and or lions rule…dont know anything about commentator, as defined by ZEID a little earlier, if you double click on my name you will always find my actual name and actual email address. Yes once again, you see how you are changing the subject. So dont twist it, seriously who are you?
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Gibbo | December 16th, 2007 at 2:57 pm
Your user name Biteme isn’t even highlighted in blue so when you double click on it, nothing happens. It must happen on one of your other accounts.
Same can be said of Commenter. (Don’t deny this mate your writing style gives you away). Double click on Lions Rule and you get some PG website that doesn’t say who you are or who your identity is.
The only one that doesn’t conceal your identity is Amre.
So why don’t you always use this? I’ll answer it.
Because you only use it whenever you want to be polite and not make personal attacks on people.
I’ve got a suggestion for you.
Why don’t you also use Jekyl sometimes and Hyde other times?
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Fred | December 16th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
LOL
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biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 4:09 pm
Listen, there has been no concealing that bite me or lions rule are names that I have used for the last 2 years now. Regarding commentator,no idea who that is, sorry, unlike you and your LOL butt buddy I have no reason to hide behind fake names and fake email addresses. Yet once again you continue to prove that you are running away from telling us who you really are, so out with it who are you, or is your work really that embarrassing…
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Gibbo | December 16th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
Biteme.
If you knew my surname, you’d realise my username is an abbreviation of it. Not hiding anything. Not using fake email addresses. Wouldnt imagine it would be too hard to find out who i am.
And no. My work isnt as embarrassing as some of the stuff here.
So bite me, biteme.
PS: Fred and i arent ‘but buddies’. I do think he’s quite attractive though……
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Fred | December 16th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
Why don’t you answer Gibbo’s question instead of avoiding it?
Why do you say you can double click on your name and it will tell you who you actually are and what your actual email address is when you can’t.
Lie #1.
You said: I have no reason to hide behind names but you continue to hide behind user names like Biteme,Lions Rules and Commenter.
Lie #2
You couldn’t even lie straight in bed.
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biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Fred, nice save their on Moey’s blog NOT!, tell me do you use FRED as a reminder of someone special to you?…Read up on Zeid’s email and you will understand what I meant about not concealing anything and nice one on the personal attacks, whereas earlier you were preaching about avoiding personal attacks. Once again am not commentator.
Gibbo, sorry your name abbreviations don’t ring a bell…you asked to get involved about the creative element yet look back about all you’re writing and wake up.
Obviously neither one of you want to say who you are because you’re too scared of revealing the quality of your work…
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Fred | December 16th, 2007 at 4:52 pm
Why don’t you answer Gibbo’s question instead of avoiding it?
Why do you say you can double click on your name and it will tell you who you actually are and what your actual email address is when you can’t on all three of them?
Lie #1.
You said: I have no reason to hide behind names but you continue to hide behind user names like Biteme,Lions Rules and Commenter.
Lie #2
You couldn’t even lie straight in bed.
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biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 4:57 pm
I am Peter Sutherland, and there is more than one Peter in Jordan who is willing to blame the error on the JT ad on PG…nice!
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Fred | December 16th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
Why don’t you answer Gibbo’s question instead of avoiding it?
Why do you say you can double click on your name and it will tell you who you actually are and what your actual email address is when you can’t.
Lie #1.
You said: I have no reason to hide behind names but you continue to hide behind names like Biteme,Lions Rules and Commenter.
Lie #2
You couldn’t even lie straight in bed.
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Fred | December 16th, 2007 at 5:08 pm
Answer the question.
Why can’t I double click on any of your user names and get your name and email?
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biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 5:12 pm
Ask the administrator…I am Peter Sutherland I have been lying all along I admit that I was mistaken in my JT ad and admit that there are others named Peter, in Jordan, who wish to pass on my mistakes to PG.
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Peter | December 16th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
Fred is right.
You really aren’t the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Why on earth would I attribute our work with another agency when everyone knows it’s our client?
The truth of the matter is that it was very easy for someone else to make that post and use my name (for some strange reason.)
Also why should we ask the administrator why we can’t access your name and email when we already know the answer.
Biteme and Commenter are not in blue because you didn’t fill out the URL.
Lions Rules is in blue but there is no name or email address only a global website.
If you want people to know who you are fill out the URL like you said, put in your name and email and don’t lead us to a global website.
And finally stop hiding behind other names.
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Amre | December 16th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
Why is PG claiming creativity when you are not?
See how easy it is to post under someone else’s name?
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Amre_H | December 16th, 2007 at 7:40 pm
PG stop acting like you’re creative when you’re not.
see how easy it is to send an email under someone else’s name?
Why does PG think they are creative when they’re not?
See how easy it is to post under someone else’s name?
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Peter | December 16th, 2007 at 11:26 pm
I’m off to australia for Xmas and new year tomorrow. (Yes Amre I’ll be back to help maintain the high standard of creativity output of Jordan…well… someone’s gotta do it)
On the way I’ll drop into Bangkok and visit my good and ever faithful mate Fred (who used to work here and now is with the hottest agency there). There I’ll buy him and his new Thai girlfriend a long boozy lunch to thank him for all the support and the superb way he stitched up poor old Biteme on my behalf.
Maybe I’ll do a hard copy of this blog so we can spill a few ice cold Singha Golds all over it as we laugh our way through the lunch.
Anyway have a great Xmas and a great new 2008.
Au-revior
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Zeid Nasser (Admin) | December 16th, 2007 at 11:50 pm
Well, can we expect this argument to go on into the new year
Gentlemen, as stated before, this is an open platform, but please think of the thousands of other visitors from all over the Middle East and across the world when you answer one another.
On second thoughts, fire on
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biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 11:56 pm
Stitched up, sorry dont get what that means, but anyway whatever. I promise not to mess with you while you’re enjoying your holidays, but hurry back so we can see some more of your amazing upside down 7 creative work in 2008…
Oh and for the record Peter in this part of the world, IT’s Happy Eid first then Merry Christmas, but I guess different cultures different languages, blah blah blah
Peter sorry didnt see comment 52 above…SERIOUSLY COMMENTATOR IS NOT ME, is he even on this blog? Also I think the URL I place has always been http://www.publicisgraphics.com.jo which is our local website, but if you think its of global quality I will take that as a compliment.
Although ZEID is the administrator and doesnt want to get involved I hope he can confirm to you that my accurate email has always been there. For the record it is ahusseini@publicisgraphics.com.jo if youwould like to send me a love letter (seriously dont!)
and just so you can always get the correct URL I will make sure to always post it…go ahead double click:)
Hey Gibbo, why dont you stop being an idiot and read the blog, rather than continuing with your stupid hidden agendas. So how many business cards have you designed today?
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gibbo | December 17th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
Hey bite me, i’ve only designed two business cards today because that’s the level of briefs my company is willing to give me, and sorry i’m an idiot and didnt read the blog before sending my stupid email
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gibbo | December 17th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
Hey bite me, can you send me your email address I want to send you my cv
Gibbo, seriously, do you read your briefs this lazily? read up you’ll find my email there, but sorry I think from what you’ve shown on this blog you’re not the right caliber so dont bother sending your cv
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Gibbo | December 17th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
Hi Biteme.
Thanks for the job offer but I’m going to have to decline. I much prefer to work on TV campaigns and big idea jobs.
Certainly don’t want to go anywhere near any ads like this. I’m not into ‘fresh’ stuff.
And bro, I ain’t a designer. I’m one of those ‘wordy’ guys, not sure if you know anything about them though….
“I am not a designer, I am a wordy guy who likes to work on TV campaigns.” and like I told you before on a different blog where you made exactly the same statement about tv campaigns and big idea jobs you are no more than a person who hides behind words and is to scared to show his work.
FYI ask around Jordan or even Dubai and find out who just finished production of one of the largest budget tvcs our region has seen.
so please just go away, dont even answer this blog, go back to your world of big words and little delivery.
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AH | December 19th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
Sorry, I must confess that the only tv campaign we’ve done for a very long time is for Zain which was written, concieved and produced by a much bigger agency than ours in Kuwait.
However we are proud to say that we did design the logo and all the supporting print. that everyone hates so much. Sorry about thatthat.
And really I have to learn to stop telling people to simply “go away” everytime I get cornered and can’t answer their questions anymore.
The truth is I’m the one that should “goaway” and grow up and act like a mangaer instead of spending all my time on blogs like this. Sorry.
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Fred | December 20th, 2007 at 12:41 am
Gibbo and everyone else who thinks this ad is crap…your’e wasting your time. The people responible think this is a brilliant ad and worthy of the grand prix at the Golden Turd awards.
So forget it guys the creator is hellbent on defending it to the hilt and paranoid about having the last say.
Give it to him.
He has little else to do in his life.
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Fred | December 20th, 2007 at 7:39 am
By the way that large tvc campaign you’re taking the credit for ? Everybody in the region knows it was for Zain. Written, concieved and produced by another agency in Kuwait.
Not ZAIN you idiot try again sorry… and wow how well informed you are all the way out there in THAILAND…oh and ZAIN’s launch TVC was created by S&S out of the UK not in this region…
Fred the idiot..I thought you told everyone to leave me alone so what are you still doing here…
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Fred | December 21st, 2007 at 1:21 am
Making you look like a fool everytime you post.
You are such an easy target.
Idiot is the term I used for you earlier.
ie. Your village called. Their idiot is missing.
Like your pathetic ad above you really can’t be original can you???
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Fred | December 21st, 2007 at 1:32 am
The truth is I can’t let you go because you make such bullshit comments and claims that need to be corrrectly answered so everyone here understands what is real and what is not.
So if it’s not Zain why won’t you tell us which client has just produced this supposed large budget tvc?????
Or will this remain a mystery like every other claim you make.
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Fred | December 21st, 2007 at 2:05 am
The Zain commercial was produced by Saatchi & Saatchi in Beirut, the TVC was directed by internationally acclaimed German director Matthias Zentner with Torsten Lippstock as director of photography. The film was shot on location in Dubai, South Africa and Milan, with post-production in Munich.
Do I have to correct you on everything?
By the way I don’t have tp live in Jordan to understand what’s happening there.
Show me your work first you idiot and prove you have the credential to do more than design a business card and I’ll tell you who the TVC is for. You are as always wrong about the S&S TVC, list all the names you want etc etc, but it was a UK commission idiot.
The only thing that is not real is who you are…just let me share something with you that IP addresses tell a lot about where your mails are coming from…WHOOPSI…
And asking around Jordan no one seems to remember you or your award winning creativity…so until you are willing to show your work and reveal your true identity, which I have figured out, you seriously need to go away…bye bye idiot…
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Fred | December 21st, 2007 at 4:52 pm
My ever reliable resources in Jordan have informed me it’s a boring 5 minute documentary for a real estate client specially made for the trade and not the consumer
Wrong again retard…try again, that’s a different project and a different client. So your ever reliable sources in Jordan aint that reliable…
Why are you so keen on knowing who everyone is while you are not willing to say who you are…comeon its getting obvious… Idiot if you click on Moey I think you will go to his website / blog and if you click on restlesses name you will also go to his website / blog.
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Fred | December 22nd, 2007 at 12:39 am
Thanks for your help Biteme.
Appreciate it.
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Fred | December 22nd, 2007 at 12:58 am
The Gold award for the best comment on this site goes to Mike55.
“but can’t help but say that it looks like a cow 69ing a pig…which I suppose is quite fresh in one sense…”
Congratulations you win a ticket for two to Cannes staying at the Royal all expenses paid for by Zeid.
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kre8tive | December 22nd, 2007 at 2:13 pm
Is it over?.. whew!! guys, keep those fire comin’…lol
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Fred | December 22nd, 2007 at 4:42 pm
No it aint over until we find out who this mystery client is..
He openly boasts about it but can’t deliver.
The truth is there is no client that has just spent their money on the biggest budget this region has ever seen. He was so proud about it you’d think he’d be dying to tell us.
Yep it’s the boring documentary all right.
Another client on another project.
yeah yeah yeah.
Fred the retard. Like I said much earlier in the blog show me your credentials and I will tell you who the client is. It’s really itching under your skin right.
Oh and see how wrongly opinionated you are…you label a documentary (which it isnt by the way) as boring, before you even see it. You question the budget of a TVC just because you know nothing about it and to top it all off you are still not willing to realise that your IP address defines your location.
Stop the lies, come out and say who you really are and let the blog judge your work and credentials.
I dont have to prove you wrong on anything because before I prove anything you have to prove your abilities and justify your credentials and prove that you’re not lying about who you are.
So lets sit back and watch how you twist this one around. FYI, at this stage its obvious all your doing is trying to take see how far you can push me and you can push all you want.
Oh and the fact that you have nothing better to do on a Saturday at 9pm in Bangkok shows what a loser you are…but that’s not really where you are and who you are is it?
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Fred | December 22nd, 2007 at 11:07 pm
We’ were 7 hours ahead of you so it was actually 11.30pm.
Correction #243
I did tell you he would never reveal which client it was didn’t I?
So the silver award for the most indirect and incoherent answers on any blog goes to….you guessed it Biteme.
Congratulations Biteme you win a one way ticket for one to a well renowned School in Switzerland that teaches English and good manners. All paid for by our good friend Zeid.
And the gold award for non coherent answers (the same word you used under a different blog under a different name a few hours ago liar) goes to you, as does the gold award for being a liar, being a chicken and avoiding the questions.
and what do you win, you win a free course at Yarmouk University called Graphic design 101, maybe you’ll learn something you liar.
PS- (are those your initials by the way) - 7 hours where to Australia, or Bangkok?
Oh and seeing as you set yourself up for it with your comment about my English….WELL at least my English as a second language doesnt cause any disasters as your Arabic as a second language did…lucky number SLEVIN!
You are pathetic…you keep removing yourself from the original question who are you, why are you lying about your identity and what are your credentials? Actually no you are not pathetic, you are the idiot…
To all people (yes you too Fred, Peter, Sutho Creative Rules) following this blog and the “personal attacks” it has resorted to. My apologies for carrying on so much and prolonging this. I am reading back over the blogs and how it all started is funny and where its going is stupid.
My name is Amre Husseini, I am the GM of Publicis Graphics Jordan, I have 1 Nestle worldwide award, 1 Diego Group world wide award, 37 Jordan Advertising Awards and 1 Pikasso D’Or Award to my name for work that I conceptualized, and designed (copy included), my mobile number is 0796216621 my email is ahusseini@publicisgraphics.com.jo and I started one agency 7 years ago with 4 employees that today has branched off into 5 agencies with 138 employees, my office is on the second floor of Al Haytham Complex on Al Madina Street. I am very emotional about my agency’s work and love constructive critisicm not stupid personal attacks (to which my emotions will always force me respond).
In lieu of this blog, moeys blog on JT and the agency war in Jordan blog we are in the process of creating a website where all the general managers of all the Jordanian agencies will be invited to share their views and get opinions from anyone. There will be editorials by a few GM’s and CD’s, local industry news and off course job links. I will not promote the address of this website (as that would be disrespectful to ZEID) but I do hope that you come one and all and share your views, yet you will have to disclose your identities and can even make it onto a panels of workshops that will be set up with various entities.
So Fred, since your lies will obviously continue yet your identity will remain a lie, I invite you to contact me on any of the personal contacts I have shared above and we can discuss it in a different setting.
My apologies for the drawn out blog and I do hope that we have at least put a few smiles on your faces.
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kre8tive | December 24th, 2007 at 10:10 am
… does that mean, it’s over?:-( Fred, where u at? ( Biteme really bites!)
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Fred | December 24th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
I can’t speak for Peter/Creative Rules but I accept your apology for all the personal attacks and insults you handed out to me and other genuine posters on this blog.
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Fred | December 25th, 2007 at 6:38 am
By the way why would you bore us with your list of animpressive achievements? I mean, who cares about the local awards you’ve won (Not one true international award amongst them. No Lions, DAAD, One show or Clios)and how you’ve built your company up from whatever to whatever???? What?? Are you trying to impress us or something???
Sorry, not impressed in the slightest.
Thanks for the offer but I don’t have anything more to say to you either here or in private.
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Fred | December 30th, 2007 at 4:08 pm
Oh and I’ve noiticed you’ve purposely omiitted your biggest acievement of all….your phantom client that has just created the biggest budget tvc this region has ever seen,
You’re miss quoting me, I said it’s one of the biggest budgets, and its not a phantom client…unlike you I wont change what I say five or six times on the same blog and only ask that you share your magical EPICA belittling credentials. Listen I heard your creative director needs you to go do a final artwork for a business card, so go do some work….
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Creative Rules | January 1st, 2008 at 7:00 am
Just jumped on the Blog and caught up with all the latest posts. Great weather here in Australia, beaches are brilliant loaded with lots of topless babes and the beer is bitterly cold.
I see our friend Biteme is still as bitter and twisted as ever and is still the only poster here that can’t get through a post without abusing everyone and making immature comments.
I also loved reading his short list of underacievements in post 96 above. What the hell is a Nestle worldwide award? And a Diego group world wide award? Bloody hell. Never ever heard of them. Next we’ll be hearing about his Alaskan Eskimo award. By the way his Pikasso D”Or award was simply a bronze. We won the silver and Gold.
By the way it was a silver pikasso d’or for Abdali, and the gold that year went to Umniah…whoopsi again creative rules!
THe only two people who jump on blogs to attack are both you and your twin Fred. A Nestle World Wide Above & Beyond Award is given to one of the Nestle Agencies around the world every year, if you ever had a chance to work on the brand you’d know how important it is. (that’s why people do creative work that meet’s clients expectations too)…Diego group is the group that owns JWalker and a whole bunch of fast food restaurants globally (small players too) in comparison to your huge global successes.
Peter, sutho, JT7, Fred, get back to Jordan quickly cant wait to see more of your amazing creativity polluting our media.
How can you so openly lie…Where did you ever say 2006…I think you just proved that you are also creative rules you idiot…Look at how stupid you look on this blog, seriously stop trying to make excuses and give up because all you’re doing is sinking deeper and deeper into your own lies…
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Fred | January 2nd, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Biteme says:
Where did you ever say 2006…???
Look at 106 and open your eyes.
Quote:
No that dubious honour went to them the following year in 2006 where they also won the Gold as well.
You really are a complete and utter moron.
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Fred | January 2nd, 2008 at 4:57 pm
By the way of course we’re the same person.
We’re just playfng with your simple mind
That was obvious 100 posts ago.
The fact that it’s taken this long for you to figure that out just confirms the level of your intelligence.
You idiot you have an alter ego! FRED ADMITS HE IS PETER! You defended Peter to the world as a different person and now you finally admit it when you get caught in your own lies. I guess with old age comes seynile actions…so go back to your business card.
And to answer your question, since obviously (this example and JT7 example) you dont proofread, you were mocking my awards and I never said what year we won an award you just jumped at 2006 and claimed I won the bronze when in 2006 I didnt enter the awards, because we didnt work with Pikasso that year…SORRY RETARD.
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Fred | January 2nd, 2008 at 11:44 pm
You are so confused in your own illogocal world that you don’t make sense any more,
The above debate was very very simple. (Even you could get your head around it)
You state in post 110 that I never said 2006.
I did in post 106.
Simple.
Honestly I’m tired of correcting you all the time.
(1) You have been claiming for weeks now that you are Fred in Thailand and that Peter is your friend. (I think you had childhood problems by the way, with imaginery friends).
(2) In blog 106 your nickname is creative rules not Fred. Yet you say they won that dubious honor in 2006. If you are creative rules why is it they not we.
(3) THen the climax of stupidity comes in blog 109 under the nickname Fred you say that you said 2006 not 2005. WHen you never said that creative rules said that.
(4) Finally in blog 112 you come out and admit that you are one and the same. THat you have been patting yourself on the back under different user names, because no one is willing to praise your work.
(5) Get out of your identity crisis and stop switching subjects so as to confuse followers on the blog. CONCLUSION: You are one person with multi-personalities and everytime you are figured out you jump and create a fictious character to defend you. Other times when you want to come out as the humble creative director you come out as PETER SUTHERLAND.
So the only one with issues here is you. It’s hilarious!
If you are still confused after a step by step explanation I can sketch it out for you if you want…thank god I never have to give you a written brief!
another example of you avoiding the subject… Tell me something when you wake up in the morning and look in the mirror does it take you a few minutes to figure out which of your personalities you want to take on for the day?
And about counting, yes I can, and I can write all the Arabic numbers from one to ten properly…I can even write them upside down…you would’ve loved that ability prior to coming up with your JT7 concept wouldnt you?
love the way you defend yourself when your integrity is being questioned. Tell me somehting do you present your creative rationales using the same scheme of defense? As I am sure it would make many a client YAWN!
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Fred@hotmail.com | January 3rd, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Don’t get too tired wouldnt want you to miss your flight back to Amman. Really anxious to see your creative work again
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Creative Rules | January 6th, 2008 at 4:39 am
To the creative guys at Publicis,
Can you share with us all the other ads you’ve done for Jazeera? (post them to Zeid and he may show us) Or maybe even discribe them.
Maybe the whole campaign is built around a fat cow and this one just so happens to be giving birth to his udder.
Rami did you do this?
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Creative Rules | January 7th, 2008 at 8:28 am
Biteme,
I’m Glad we’ve settled our stupid and ridiculous dispute in private and feel embarrassed that we’ve bored all our patient and good friends posting on this blog. (Allbeit being somewhat entertaining at times)
I am serious about whether the Jazeera campaign is centered around this cow however.
And a big hello to my old mate Rami. You guys are lucky to have him and I miss him alot.
i’m looking to travel
i liked the ad
it got my attention
ain’t that what its supposed to do?
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HM Stieber | May 19th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
This got my attention, but I am not sure that is always good. Reading that someone found a finger in their food at an eating place gets my attention, but not in a good way.
While this isn’t quite as horrible, it is on the verge. The graphics are a bit tawdry - not in their visual, execution - I like the colors and the clean lines, but the bursting cow really lacks conceptual appeal. It doesn’t say fresh to me at all - perhaps an oversuppply, but not fresh, not professional.
I guess I (like Creative Rules) would like to know if it is part of some campaign. It may help me get my head around it a bit more, if I am in fact missing something.
Zeid - thanks for moderating. I would hope people could do that for themselves, but…
Maybe you need to have a sissy fighting section, away from the comments that are supposed to be about the work - where people can pull hair, scratch, and bite - continue to fight like girls!!
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1. Moey | December 5th, 2007 at 2:21 am
Good work publicis, I like the jazeera identity and graphics.
2. Kaz | December 5th, 2007 at 2:28 am
Fresh Fares…. Catchy
Cow about to explode…. Not very classy
3. Mike55 | December 5th, 2007 at 3:28 pm
Don’t often comment here, though I often visit. Really like the illustration style, but can’t help but say that it looks like a cow 69ing a pig…which I suppose is quite fresh in one sense…
4. iramo | December 5th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
again 3am 3ala2 or senan… great job and my best wishes… guys u r the real hard workers in publicis…
5. Zeid Nasser (Admin) | December 5th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
You know Mike, now that you mentioned it ………
6. restless | December 6th, 2007 at 10:10 am
too much informations in one ad ,,,tooo busy !!
7. Gibbo | December 6th, 2007 at 11:03 am
This is absolute garbage. Is this the way to sell cheap airline tickets? A lactating cow?
Don’t know whether to blame the creatives that dished this up or the blind client.
8. biteme | December 6th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
Gibbo…obviously you have little experience as to what low cost carriers do to sell tickets. Need a visual that catches attention and a related headline…or they follow a text only approach. But since you probably have the experience to share your opinion, more power to you:) Mike’s comment is just settling in right now:)
9. Gibbo | December 6th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
I do have experience in the airline business actually for your information biteme.
I agree with an exciting headline, interesting visual etc… but cmon have a look at this ad. I mean a lactating cow? How the hell is that relevant?
Cow jizz all over the page. Not much appetite appeal there.
absolutely garish.
10. fred | December 6th, 2007 at 5:00 pm
Biteme or Amre Husseini the CEO of Publicis,
Stop defending this pile of steaming cow turd.
This will not sell one friggin seat.
If the image of a client’s ad is a refection of it’s product then this a large fat slow cow of an airline that would never get off the ground.
11. Fred | December 6th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
Biteme or Amre Hussieni from Publicis.
Stop defending this pile of cow turd.
This won;t sell a friggin seat.
If a clients ad is a refection of his product then this is a big fat slow cow of an airline that will never get off the ground.
12. Moey | December 7th, 2007 at 4:10 am
Jazeera pretty much sells out Fred, no tickets always and they are the most successful and this is me being honest, I work for a competitive agency of Publicis and I’m saying that so get a life
13. biteme | December 7th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
Hi Fred..Biteme has been the name I’m using onine for quite sometime now and everyone knows who I am, but you are FRED who? Defending a pile of cow turd for an airline that will never get off the ground…lets see from 8 A320s to 50 A320s in 5 years, consistently high sales and yield + great response to the advertisement (tracked vs. sales) sorry you lose Fred
14. biteme | December 7th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Gibbo, what I said was “experience with what low cost carriers do to sell tickets”…just a quick question to you (for the sake of debate solely, dont get me wrong) “how is water relevant to telecommunications, how is a flower relevant to a bank or how is a bubble relevant to an airplane?” It’s not visual relevance its association to messaging that clicks with a target and attracts their attention generating a call for action. Whether you see it as a pig 69ing a cow or cow jizz that’s your call, but it’s not creatively wrong as is the case with the 7 that was recently flipped wrongly on a JT ad is it?
15. Moey | December 8th, 2007 at 12:33 am
hahahaha good one biteme
16. Gibbo | December 9th, 2007 at 11:49 am
Hi Biteme and everyone else.
By the way I don’t want to get involved in a slanging match. I’m here just to talk about the ads that are posted.
The imagery we use either has to be related, or has to convey a feeling that we want associated with our products (like you said Biteme).
My point with this particular execution is that it gives me a very negative feeling about the brand.Cmon, that is undeniable. Its a very weak link having a headline that says fresh and showing this illustration. It is tacky to the extreme. It looks like a concept you put up not expecting it to go anywhere and then the client actually buys it.
Bad advertising slips through a lot in this market and this would have to top the cake. Sounds like a great client with a great product. This surely is not the best the agency could have done. If it is, I’d be worried. Give this brief to 10 agencies in the region and see what they would come up with.
No-one is backing up the creative here because it is terrible. Doesnt matter who you work for to know that.
G.
17. Hans Anderson Abu Dhabi | December 11th, 2007 at 8:02 am
Totally agree Gibbo.
Spot on.
Without doubt the worst ad I’ve ever seen.
18. Fred | December 12th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
Biteme = Moey =Amre…your writing style gives you away everytime.
You can throw as many made up stats and figures you like at this nothing will take away the fact that this is ad is a real stinker. What…can I ask has Freshness got to do with a low airfare? And then…wait for it… what does a fat,poorly executed, old fashioned cartoon of a cow that’s just given birth to his udder got to do with Freshness?
Hey Zied…here’s an idea… maybe we can run an award every year for ads like this and call it the the “Golden Turd award”
That way the second rated agency can come first for a change.
19. Zeid Nasser (Admin) | December 13th, 2007 at 10:06 am
Aggressive !
Any response Biteme?
(PS. Actually Moey is a real person)
20. biteme | December 13th, 2007 at 1:28 pm
Bite me = Amre not Moey though…sorry, but as we asked before who are you Peter. Fresh Fares implies new fares, and now the cow is poorly executed. Great, I have a feeling I know who Fred is, and my understanding is that soon we will be waving bye bye to him as he departs Jordan and stops deteriorating its creative output.
Yet your comments show your maturity and all I can say is thank you for them…
21. Zeid Nasser (Admin) | December 13th, 2007 at 1:32 pm
Also Aggressive.
So, Fred, any truth to the statement Fred=Peter?
22. biteme | December 13th, 2007 at 2:39 pm
I think you are the one to best answer that Zeid
23. Fred | December 13th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Peter is “creative rules” everybody knows that.
Close but no cigar.
And by the way his record of winning the most awards ever in two consecutive Jordan advertising awards and being CD of the only agency in Jordan to have work accepted in the Lynx awards clearly speaks for it self.
Sounds like an extremely positive creative output to me.
24. Zeid Nasser (Admin) | December 13th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
Actually that’s not correct.
As any commentor can see, you must fill in a screen name plus an email (which remains hidden from public).
Only users who fill in the URL, or place their email address by mistake or on purpose in the URL field can be visible.
Check out the comments on this post by Moey or Kaz or North55 and you’ll get their URLs.
Looking at the emails I get (the hidden ones like Fred) most of them are not real, as the system accepts anything with a @.
May I point out that even if the email was real and determined the identity of a person, it is my moral responsibility not to reveal it or use the info any way.
Therefore, my personal neutrality in the industry (I don’t work for or own an ad agency) and my demonstrated online credibility here since January 2006 enables people to enjoy their time at AdBlogArabia and trust that whoever’s work they criticize and whatever comment they place; it’s going to appear!
The same cannot be said of all ad blogs.
25. Gibbo | December 13th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Hey Biteme,
I think this ad is doing a great job of “deterioating the creative output” of Jordan. If this isn’t the biggest piece of ‘codswollop’ polluting the media, I’d love to know what is.
Where are the creatives defending this? There’s a lot of personal attacks but no-one is defending the work, cos it sucks.
If you can’t do any better than this Publicis, get a new team.
26. amer | December 13th, 2007 at 4:06 pm
Guys, the idea is really good, but the art direction realla really sucksssss… something wrong with communication….
27. amjad | December 13th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
Hi everybody,
nice idea, bad art direction, also the ad is busy you dont know where to look at…
28. biteme | December 13th, 2007 at 6:50 pm
Hey Fred you seem to know a lot about Peter and seem to be following in his foot steps by giving him credit rather than the team that works for him, so what’s going on between you guys? Also note that ADPRO and PG were regionally recognized and won regional and one or international awards well before Dubai Lynx as did FP7:) While your cozmo work entered into Lynx, was only a finalist and didnt actually win anything…So please get your facts straight.
Gibbo, not going to get into this with you, cause you’ve obviously got issues.
29. biteme | December 13th, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Oh and one more thing Fred, where were you on the blog regarding the incorrect usage of the Arabic letter 7 (whoops), We didnt hear much from Y&R about that one? it’s on http://www.moeys.net if you want to check it out…
30. Moey | December 13th, 2007 at 8:54 pm
hahah thanks bitme, let me give him the exact link and btw, I work for a respected agency in Jordan and was in one in Kuwait
and will go somewhere else in 2 years, I’m AN UNDERGRADUATE!
http://moeys.net/2007/11/26/team-yr-amman-messes-up-with-orange/
31. Fred | December 15th, 2007 at 11:41 pm
Biteme,
You’re not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you?
First of all if you bother to go back and read my post you’ll see that there was no reference to winning an award at Lynx. Simply the only agency in Jordan to have work ‘Accepted’ which, in itself is a pretty good achievement considering how tough it is just to get in.
So it’s you who should get your facts right.
Secondly if the creative output is ‘deteriorated’ as you say then how come you’re always coming a distant second to it all the time?
What does that say about you that you can’t even beat someone that produces deteriorating work?
Seriously Amre you really should think before you post next time. That way you can avoid embarrasing yourself and (from what I’m told) your staff as well.
But far more importantly, don’t you have better things to do with your time than constantly visit every blog you can where you post misleading facts and figures, false accusations and spread stupid rumours? My God. These Blogs are primarily for creative people to share work with each other and get some honest feedback. Your time is better spent trying to be a good manager and do real things like: spend time with your clients, build relationships, win new business and try to lift the moral of your staff.
And please, please try to have nothing to do with the creative product. If the above is what you believe is great work stand back, stop hogging all the glory and allow your creative people to grow and develop. You have two very good Creative directors there let them creative direct.
Here’s a thought, perhaps you should start a blog for managers. That way you can post as many false facts and figures you like and everyone on your blog might believe them and be impressed by them.
Go away close your computer and get a friggin life for Chrissakes!!!!
32. biteme | December 15th, 2007 at 11:56 pm
Fred, or Peter or whatever you wish to call yourself. Thank you for your statements and although as usual you turn things into personal attacks (like when you blamed PG for your upside down 7) they go to prove your personality and desire to take credit where credit is not due. You are incorrect we have three amazin associate creative directors (not two) and all are extremely talented and are managing a great team.
Regarding being a distant second…take a look at growth and feel how distant it really is:)
Finally, last time I checked, this wasnt your blog and till you come out and admit who you really are, I dont think you have a right to judge who says what where and when.
By the way when are you leaving Jordan?
33. Fred | December 16th, 2007 at 9:33 am
Pathetic response.
Yawn.
34. biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 10:35 am
Once again switch and belittle the subject to protect yourself mr. sharp knife…go away now!
35. Fred | December 16th, 2007 at 11:28 am
Yawn.
36. biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 12:09 pm
what dont have any briefs to work on? Or are you managing it so your team does all the work?
37. Gibbo | December 16th, 2007 at 12:09 pm
Biteme,
I have “issues” with blokes like you and the garbage that your agency puts out.
You dont wanna get involved with me and defend the creative? Thats all I’m asking. I’m not arguing about credentials or who has the biggest c#%k.
Defend this work.
38. biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
Gibbo, and I have issues with blokes who conceal their identity. I did defend this creative vs. the results it generated and you didnt want to accept that. If you want to keep this civil we can debate it, I did say that yes it was heavy on the text, but i did defend the visual relevance to you and the message, but you dont want to read or listen, what else am I supposed to do. All your statements were not about creative or message, read back and see what I mean.
39. Gibbo | December 16th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
Biteme/ Lions rules/ Commentator or whoever you are today… What an easy target you all are.
Unlike you, I have always kept to the same username, so the only issue that you have with people concealling their identity is with yourself.
40. biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 1:50 pm
Bite me and or lions rule…dont know anything about commentator, as defined by ZEID a little earlier, if you double click on my name you will always find my actual name and actual email address. Yes once again, you see how you are changing the subject. So dont twist it, seriously who are you?
41. Gibbo | December 16th, 2007 at 2:57 pm
Your user name Biteme isn’t even highlighted in blue so when you double click on it, nothing happens. It must happen on one of your other accounts.
Same can be said of Commenter. (Don’t deny this mate your writing style gives you away). Double click on Lions Rule and you get some PG website that doesn’t say who you are or who your identity is.
The only one that doesn’t conceal your identity is Amre.
So why don’t you always use this? I’ll answer it.
Because you only use it whenever you want to be polite and not make personal attacks on people.
I’ve got a suggestion for you.
Why don’t you also use Jekyl sometimes and Hyde other times?
42. Fred | December 16th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
LOL
43. biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 4:09 pm
Listen, there has been no concealing that bite me or lions rule are names that I have used for the last 2 years now. Regarding commentator,no idea who that is, sorry, unlike you and your LOL butt buddy I have no reason to hide behind fake names and fake email addresses. Yet once again you continue to prove that you are running away from telling us who you really are, so out with it who are you, or is your work really that embarrassing…
44. Gibbo | December 16th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
Biteme.
If you knew my surname, you’d realise my username is an abbreviation of it. Not hiding anything. Not using fake email addresses. Wouldnt imagine it would be too hard to find out who i am.
And no. My work isnt as embarrassing as some of the stuff here.
So bite me, biteme.
PS: Fred and i arent ‘but buddies’. I do think he’s quite attractive though……
45. Fred | December 16th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
Why don’t you answer Gibbo’s question instead of avoiding it?
Why do you say you can double click on your name and it will tell you who you actually are and what your actual email address is when you can’t.
Lie #1.
You said: I have no reason to hide behind names but you continue to hide behind user names like Biteme,Lions Rules and Commenter.
Lie #2
You couldn’t even lie straight in bed.
46. biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Fred, nice save their on Moey’s blog NOT!, tell me do you use FRED as a reminder of someone special to you?…Read up on Zeid’s email and you will understand what I meant about not concealing anything and nice one on the personal attacks, whereas earlier you were preaching about avoiding personal attacks. Once again am not commentator.
Gibbo, sorry your name abbreviations don’t ring a bell…you asked to get involved about the creative element yet look back about all you’re writing and wake up.
Obviously neither one of you want to say who you are because you’re too scared of revealing the quality of your work…
47. Fred | December 16th, 2007 at 4:52 pm
Why don’t you answer Gibbo’s question instead of avoiding it?
Why do you say you can double click on your name and it will tell you who you actually are and what your actual email address is when you can’t on all three of them?
Lie #1.
You said: I have no reason to hide behind names but you continue to hide behind user names like Biteme,Lions Rules and Commenter.
Lie #2
You couldn’t even lie straight in bed.
48. biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 4:57 pm
I am Peter Sutherland, and there is more than one Peter in Jordan who is willing to blame the error on the JT ad on PG…nice!
49. Fred | December 16th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
Why don’t you answer Gibbo’s question instead of avoiding it?
Why do you say you can double click on your name and it will tell you who you actually are and what your actual email address is when you can’t.
Lie #1.
You said: I have no reason to hide behind names but you continue to hide behind names like Biteme,Lions Rules and Commenter.
Lie #2
You couldn’t even lie straight in bed.
50. Fred | December 16th, 2007 at 5:08 pm
Answer the question.
Why can’t I double click on any of your user names and get your name and email?
51. biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 5:12 pm
Ask the administrator…I am Peter Sutherland I have been lying all along I admit that I was mistaken in my JT ad and admit that there are others named Peter, in Jordan, who wish to pass on my mistakes to PG.
52. Peter | December 16th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
Fred is right.
You really aren’t the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Why on earth would I attribute our work with another agency when everyone knows it’s our client?
The truth of the matter is that it was very easy for someone else to make that post and use my name (for some strange reason.)
Also why should we ask the administrator why we can’t access your name and email when we already know the answer.
Biteme and Commenter are not in blue because you didn’t fill out the URL.
Lions Rules is in blue but there is no name or email address only a global website.
If you want people to know who you are fill out the URL like you said, put in your name and email and don’t lead us to a global website.
And finally stop hiding behind other names.
53. Amre | December 16th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
Why is PG claiming creativity when you are not?
See how easy it is to post under someone else’s name?
54. Amre_H | December 16th, 2007 at 7:40 pm
PG stop acting like you’re creative when you’re not.
see how easy it is to send an email under someone else’s name?
55. restless | December 16th, 2007 at 8:20 pm
What the hell is going on !!!
56. biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 10:30 pm
Nothing we’re just playing…promise:)
57. amre.h | December 16th, 2007 at 11:09 pm
Why does PG think they are creative when they’re not?
See how easy it is to post under someone else’s name?
58. Peter | December 16th, 2007 at 11:26 pm
I’m off to australia for Xmas and new year tomorrow. (Yes Amre I’ll be back to help maintain the high standard of creativity output of Jordan…well… someone’s gotta do it)
On the way I’ll drop into Bangkok and visit my good and ever faithful mate Fred (who used to work here and now is with the hottest agency there). There I’ll buy him and his new Thai girlfriend a long boozy lunch to thank him for all the support and the superb way he stitched up poor old Biteme on my behalf.
Maybe I’ll do a hard copy of this blog so we can spill a few ice cold Singha Golds all over it as we laugh our way through the lunch.
Anyway have a great Xmas and a great new 2008.
Au-revior
59. Zeid Nasser (Admin) | December 16th, 2007 at 11:50 pm
Well, can we expect this argument to go on into the new year
Gentlemen, as stated before, this is an open platform, but please think of the thousands of other visitors from all over the Middle East and across the world when you answer one another.
On second thoughts, fire on
60. biteme | December 16th, 2007 at 11:56 pm
Stitched up, sorry dont get what that means, but anyway whatever. I promise not to mess with you while you’re enjoying your holidays, but hurry back so we can see some more of your amazing upside down 7 creative work in 2008…
Oh and for the record Peter in this part of the world, IT’s Happy Eid first then Merry Christmas, but I guess different cultures different languages, blah blah blah
61. biteme | December 17th, 2007 at 12:02 am
Peter sorry didnt see comment 52 above…SERIOUSLY COMMENTATOR IS NOT ME, is he even on this blog? Also I think the URL I place has always been http://www.publicisgraphics.com.jo which is our local website, but if you think its of global quality I will take that as a compliment.
Although ZEID is the administrator and doesnt want to get involved I hope he can confirm to you that my accurate email has always been there. For the record it is ahusseini@publicisgraphics.com.jo if youwould like to send me a love letter (seriously dont!)
and just so you can always get the correct URL I will make sure to always post it…go ahead double click:)
62. biteme | December 17th, 2007 at 12:04 am
Oh and one last thing … Fred, pray what award winning creativity records did you shatter during your time in Jordan?
63. Fred | December 17th, 2007 at 1:10 am
Your village called Amre.
Their idiot is missing,.
64. biteme | December 17th, 2007 at 12:09 pm
Hey Fred, given the time difference dont you think you should get to work and just go away…
65. Gibbo | December 17th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
Hey Biteme.
i notice your name is clickable this morning. Thanks for fixing it up.
Lets keep it in the gutter in the New Year folks.
Gibbo
66. biteme | December 17th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
Hey Gibbo, why dont you stop being an idiot and read the blog, rather than continuing with your stupid hidden agendas. So how many business cards have you designed today?
67. gibbo | December 17th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
Hey bite me, i’ve only designed two business cards today because that’s the level of briefs my company is willing to give me, and sorry i’m an idiot and didnt read the blog before sending my stupid email
68. gibbo | December 17th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
Hey bite me, can you send me your email address I want to send you my cv
69. biteme | December 17th, 2007 at 3:25 pm
Gibbo, seriously, do you read your briefs this lazily? read up you’ll find my email there, but sorry I think from what you’ve shown on this blog you’re not the right caliber so dont bother sending your cv
70. Gibbo | December 17th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
Hi Biteme.
Thanks for the job offer but I’m going to have to decline. I much prefer to work on TV campaigns and big idea jobs.
Certainly don’t want to go anywhere near any ads like this. I’m not into ‘fresh’ stuff.
And bro, I ain’t a designer. I’m one of those ‘wordy’ guys, not sure if you know anything about them though….
71. biteme | December 17th, 2007 at 7:21 pm
“I am not a designer, I am a wordy guy who likes to work on TV campaigns.” and like I told you before on a different blog where you made exactly the same statement about tv campaigns and big idea jobs you are no more than a person who hides behind words and is to scared to show his work.
FYI ask around Jordan or even Dubai and find out who just finished production of one of the largest budget tvcs our region has seen.
so please just go away, dont even answer this blog, go back to your world of big words and little delivery.
72. AH | December 19th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
Sorry, I must confess that the only tv campaign we’ve done for a very long time is for Zain which was written, concieved and produced by a much bigger agency than ours in Kuwait.
However we are proud to say that we did design the logo and all the supporting print. that everyone hates so much. Sorry about thatthat.
And really I have to learn to stop telling people to simply “go away” everytime I get cornered and can’t answer their questions anymore.
The truth is I’m the one that should “goaway” and grow up and act like a mangaer instead of spending all my time on blogs like this. Sorry.
73. Fred | December 20th, 2007 at 12:41 am
Gibbo and everyone else who thinks this ad is crap…your’e wasting your time. The people responible think this is a brilliant ad and worthy of the grand prix at the Golden Turd awards.
So forget it guys the creator is hellbent on defending it to the hilt and paranoid about having the last say.
Give it to him.
He has little else to do in his life.
74. Fred | December 20th, 2007 at 7:39 am
By the way that large tvc campaign you’re taking the credit for ? Everybody in the region knows it was for Zain. Written, concieved and produced by another agency in Kuwait.
LOL
75. biteme | December 20th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
Not ZAIN you idiot try again sorry… and wow how well informed you are all the way out there in THAILAND…oh and ZAIN’s launch TVC was created by S&S out of the UK not in this region…
Fred the idiot..I thought you told everyone to leave me alone so what are you still doing here…
76. Fred | December 21st, 2007 at 1:21 am
Making you look like a fool everytime you post.
You are such an easy target.
Idiot is the term I used for you earlier.
ie. Your village called. Their idiot is missing.
Like your pathetic ad above you really can’t be original can you???
77. Fred | December 21st, 2007 at 1:32 am
The truth is I can’t let you go because you make such bullshit comments and claims that need to be corrrectly answered so everyone here understands what is real and what is not.
So if it’s not Zain why won’t you tell us which client has just produced this supposed large budget tvc?????
Or will this remain a mystery like every other claim you make.
78. Fred | December 21st, 2007 at 2:05 am
The Zain commercial was produced by Saatchi & Saatchi in Beirut, the TVC was directed by internationally acclaimed German director Matthias Zentner with Torsten Lippstock as director of photography. The film was shot on location in Dubai, South Africa and Milan, with post-production in Munich.
Do I have to correct you on everything?
By the way I don’t have tp live in Jordan to understand what’s happening there.
We have the internet remember?
79. biteme | December 21st, 2007 at 2:23 pm
Show me your work first you idiot and prove you have the credential to do more than design a business card and I’ll tell you who the TVC is for. You are as always wrong about the S&S TVC, list all the names you want etc etc, but it was a UK commission idiot.
The only thing that is not real is who you are…just let me share something with you that IP addresses tell a lot about where your mails are coming from…WHOOPSI…
And asking around Jordan no one seems to remember you or your award winning creativity…so until you are willing to show your work and reveal your true identity, which I have figured out, you seriously need to go away…bye bye idiot…
80. Fred | December 21st, 2007 at 4:52 pm
My ever reliable resources in Jordan have informed me it’s a boring 5 minute documentary for a real estate client specially made for the trade and not the consumer
Now I know why you were reluctant to name it..
81. Fred | December 21st, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Hey Moey…are U Restless reinvented?
82. biteme | December 21st, 2007 at 5:16 pm
Wrong again retard…try again, that’s a different project and a different client. So your ever reliable sources in Jordan aint that reliable…
Why are you so keen on knowing who everyone is while you are not willing to say who you are…comeon its getting obvious… Idiot if you click on Moey I think you will go to his website / blog and if you click on restlesses name you will also go to his website / blog.
83. Fred | December 22nd, 2007 at 12:39 am
Thanks for your help Biteme.
Appreciate it.
84. Fred | December 22nd, 2007 at 12:58 am
The Gold award for the best comment on this site goes to Mike55.
“but can’t help but say that it looks like a cow 69ing a pig…which I suppose is quite fresh in one sense…”
Congratulations you win a ticket for two to Cannes staying at the Royal all expenses paid for by Zeid.
85. kre8tive | December 22nd, 2007 at 2:13 pm
Is it over?.. whew!! guys, keep those fire comin’…lol
86. Fred | December 22nd, 2007 at 4:42 pm
No it aint over until we find out who this mystery client is..
He openly boasts about it but can’t deliver.
The truth is there is no client that has just spent their money on the biggest budget this region has ever seen. He was so proud about it you’d think he’d be dying to tell us.
Yep it’s the boring documentary all right.
Another client on another project.
yeah yeah yeah.
Come on Biteme prove me wrong.
Watch him try to slip out of this.
87. biteme | December 22nd, 2007 at 6:43 pm
Fred the retard. Like I said much earlier in the blog show me your credentials and I will tell you who the client is. It’s really itching under your skin right.
Oh and see how wrongly opinionated you are…you label a documentary (which it isnt by the way) as boring, before you even see it. You question the budget of a TVC just because you know nothing about it and to top it all off you are still not willing to realise that your IP address defines your location.
Stop the lies, come out and say who you really are and let the blog judge your work and credentials.
I dont have to prove you wrong on anything because before I prove anything you have to prove your abilities and justify your credentials and prove that you’re not lying about who you are.
So lets sit back and watch how you twist this one around. FYI, at this stage its obvious all your doing is trying to take see how far you can push me and you can push all you want.
The only one hiding here is you…
88. biteme | December 22nd, 2007 at 6:47 pm
Oh and the fact that you have nothing better to do on a Saturday at 9pm in Bangkok shows what a loser you are…but that’s not really where you are and who you are is it?
89. Fred | December 22nd, 2007 at 11:07 pm
We’ were 7 hours ahead of you so it was actually 11.30pm.
Correction #243
I did tell you he would never reveal which client it was didn’t I?
So the silver award for the most indirect and incoherent answers on any blog goes to….you guessed it Biteme.
Congratulations Biteme you win a one way ticket for one to a well renowned School in Switzerland that teaches English and good manners. All paid for by our good friend Zeid.
Well done you certainly deserve it.
90. biteme | December 23rd, 2007 at 11:07 am
And the gold award for non coherent answers (the same word you used under a different blog under a different name a few hours ago liar) goes to you, as does the gold award for being a liar, being a chicken and avoiding the questions.
and what do you win, you win a free course at Yarmouk University called Graphic design 101, maybe you’ll learn something you liar.
PS- (are those your initials by the way) - 7 hours where to Australia, or Bangkok?
91. biteme | December 23rd, 2007 at 11:09 am
Oh and seeing as you set yourself up for it with your comment about my English….WELL at least my English as a second language doesnt cause any disasters as your Arabic as a second language did…lucky number SLEVIN!
92. kre8tive | December 23rd, 2007 at 1:21 pm
Oh, it aint over , that’s right.
93. biteme | December 23rd, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Far from it….
94. Fred | December 23rd, 2007 at 4:20 pm
So that’s it…You can’t tell us all the name of this supposed client because there aint such a client.
Pathetic.
95. biteme | December 23rd, 2007 at 6:18 pm
You are pathetic…you keep removing yourself from the original question who are you, why are you lying about your identity and what are your credentials? Actually no you are not pathetic, you are the idiot…
96. biteme | December 24th, 2007 at 12:20 am
To all people (yes you too Fred, Peter, Sutho Creative Rules) following this blog and the “personal attacks” it has resorted to. My apologies for carrying on so much and prolonging this. I am reading back over the blogs and how it all started is funny and where its going is stupid.
My name is Amre Husseini, I am the GM of Publicis Graphics Jordan, I have 1 Nestle worldwide award, 1 Diego Group world wide award, 37 Jordan Advertising Awards and 1 Pikasso D’Or Award to my name for work that I conceptualized, and designed (copy included), my mobile number is 0796216621 my email is ahusseini@publicisgraphics.com.jo and I started one agency 7 years ago with 4 employees that today has branched off into 5 agencies with 138 employees, my office is on the second floor of Al Haytham Complex on Al Madina Street. I am very emotional about my agency’s work and love constructive critisicm not stupid personal attacks (to which my emotions will always force me respond).
In lieu of this blog, moeys blog on JT and the agency war in Jordan blog we are in the process of creating a website where all the general managers of all the Jordanian agencies will be invited to share their views and get opinions from anyone. There will be editorials by a few GM’s and CD’s, local industry news and off course job links. I will not promote the address of this website (as that would be disrespectful to ZEID) but I do hope that you come one and all and share your views, yet you will have to disclose your identities and can even make it onto a panels of workshops that will be set up with various entities.
So Fred, since your lies will obviously continue yet your identity will remain a lie, I invite you to contact me on any of the personal contacts I have shared above and we can discuss it in a different setting.
My apologies for the drawn out blog and I do hope that we have at least put a few smiles on your faces.
97. kre8tive | December 24th, 2007 at 10:10 am
… does that mean, it’s over?:-( Fred, where u at? ( Biteme really bites!)
98. Fred | December 24th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
I can’t speak for Peter/Creative Rules but I accept your apology for all the personal attacks and insults you handed out to me and other genuine posters on this blog.
99. Fred | December 25th, 2007 at 6:38 am
By the way why would you bore us with your list of animpressive achievements? I mean, who cares about the local awards you’ve won (Not one true international award amongst them. No Lions, DAAD, One show or Clios)and how you’ve built your company up from whatever to whatever???? What?? Are you trying to impress us or something???
Sorry, not impressed in the slightest.
Thanks for the offer but I don’t have anything more to say to you either here or in private.
100. Fred | December 30th, 2007 at 4:08 pm
Oh and I’ve noiticed you’ve purposely omiitted your biggest acievement of all….your phantom client that has just created the biggest budget tvc this region has ever seen,
101. biteme | December 30th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
You’re miss quoting me, I said it’s one of the biggest budgets, and its not a phantom client…unlike you I wont change what I say five or six times on the same blog and only ask that you share your magical EPICA belittling credentials. Listen I heard your creative director needs you to go do a final artwork for a business card, so go do some work….
102. Creative Rules | January 1st, 2008 at 7:00 am
Just jumped on the Blog and caught up with all the latest posts. Great weather here in Australia, beaches are brilliant loaded with lots of topless babes and the beer is bitterly cold.
I see our friend Biteme is still as bitter and twisted as ever and is still the only poster here that can’t get through a post without abusing everyone and making immature comments.
I also loved reading his short list of underacievements in post 96 above. What the hell is a Nestle worldwide award? And a Diego group world wide award? Bloody hell. Never ever heard of them. Next we’ll be hearing about his Alaskan Eskimo award. By the way his Pikasso D”Or award was simply a bronze. We won the silver and Gold.
Just ignore him Fred everyone else does.
See you on Thursday…can’t wait.
103. biteme | January 1st, 2008 at 12:59 pm
By the way it was a silver pikasso d’or for Abdali, and the gold that year went to Umniah…whoopsi again creative rules!
THe only two people who jump on blogs to attack are both you and your twin Fred. A Nestle World Wide Above & Beyond Award is given to one of the Nestle Agencies around the world every year, if you ever had a chance to work on the brand you’d know how important it is. (that’s why people do creative work that meet’s clients expectations too)…Diego group is the group that owns JWalker and a whole bunch of fast food restaurants globally (small players too) in comparison to your huge global successes.
Peter, sutho, JT7, Fred, get back to Jordan quickly cant wait to see more of your amazing creativity polluting our media.
104. Fred | January 1st, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Silver eh?
Still coming second.I see.
105. biteme | January 1st, 2008 at 9:22 pm
wasn’t to Y&R though…:)
106. Creative Rules | January 2nd, 2008 at 1:22 am
No that dubious honour went to them the following year in 2006 where they also won the Gold as well.
107. biteme | January 2nd, 2008 at 10:30 am
No that year Umniah won the gold with its launch campaign, designed by ADPRO…I think u are confusing things sorry!
108. biteme | January 2nd, 2008 at 10:32 am
check the link…that year Y&R didnt win any… http://www.pikasso.com/newsite/Sub-Jordan-English.aspx?ID=1084&MID=371&LangID=6
109. Fred | January 2nd, 2008 at 3:18 pm
I said 2006 not 2005.
Again you don’t read oe comprehend things clearly.
How do you cope from day to day?
http://www.pikasso.com/newsite/Sub-Jordan-English.aspx?ID=1973&MID=371&LangID=6
110. biteme | January 2nd, 2008 at 4:05 pm
How can you so openly lie…Where did you ever say 2006…I think you just proved that you are also creative rules you idiot…Look at how stupid you look on this blog, seriously stop trying to make excuses and give up because all you’re doing is sinking deeper and deeper into your own lies…
111. Fred | January 2nd, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Biteme says:
Where did you ever say 2006…???
Look at 106 and open your eyes.
Quote:
No that dubious honour went to them the following year in 2006 where they also won the Gold as well.
You really are a complete and utter moron.
112. Fred | January 2nd, 2008 at 4:57 pm
By the way of course we’re the same person.
We’re just playfng with your simple mind
That was obvious 100 posts ago.
The fact that it’s taken this long for you to figure that out just confirms the level of your intelligence.
Now go back and read post 106.
113. biteme | January 2nd, 2008 at 6:27 pm
You idiot you have an alter ego! FRED ADMITS HE IS PETER! You defended Peter to the world as a different person and now you finally admit it when you get caught in your own lies. I guess with old age comes seynile actions…so go back to your business card.
And to answer your question, since obviously (this example and JT7 example) you dont proofread, you were mocking my awards and I never said what year we won an award you just jumped at 2006 and claimed I won the bronze when in 2006 I didnt enter the awards, because we didnt work with Pikasso that year…SORRY RETARD.
114. Fred | January 2nd, 2008 at 11:44 pm
You are so confused in your own illogocal world that you don’t make sense any more,
The above debate was very very simple. (Even you could get your head around it)
You state in post 110 that I never said 2006.
I did in post 106.
Simple.
Honestly I’m tired of correcting you all the time.
115. biteme | January 3rd, 2008 at 12:26 am
I’m not confused at all…sorry!
(1) You have been claiming for weeks now that you are Fred in Thailand and that Peter is your friend. (I think you had childhood problems by the way, with imaginery friends).
(2) In blog 106 your nickname is creative rules not Fred. Yet you say they won that dubious honor in 2006. If you are creative rules why is it they not we.
(3) THen the climax of stupidity comes in blog 109 under the nickname Fred you say that you said 2006 not 2005. WHen you never said that creative rules said that.
(4) Finally in blog 112 you come out and admit that you are one and the same. THat you have been patting yourself on the back under different user names, because no one is willing to praise your work.
(5) Get out of your identity crisis and stop switching subjects so as to confuse followers on the blog. CONCLUSION: You are one person with multi-personalities and everytime you are figured out you jump and create a fictious character to defend you. Other times when you want to come out as the humble creative director you come out as PETER SUTHERLAND.
So the only one with issues here is you. It’s hilarious!
If you are still confused after a step by step explanation I can sketch it out for you if you want…thank god I never have to give you a written brief!
116. Fred | January 3rd, 2008 at 12:39 am
I see you can actually count
117. biteme | January 3rd, 2008 at 2:20 am
another example of you avoiding the subject… Tell me something when you wake up in the morning and look in the mirror does it take you a few minutes to figure out which of your personalities you want to take on for the day?
And about counting, yes I can, and I can write all the Arabic numbers from one to ten properly…I can even write them upside down…you would’ve loved that ability prior to coming up with your JT7 concept wouldnt you?
118. Fred | January 3rd, 2008 at 4:56 am
Yawn
119. biteme | January 3rd, 2008 at 10:15 am
love the way you defend yourself when your integrity is being questioned. Tell me somehting do you present your creative rationales using the same scheme of defense? As I am sure it would make many a client YAWN!
120. Fred@hotmail.com | January 3rd, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Double yawn
121. Fred | January 3rd, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Bigger Yawn.
122. biteme | January 3rd, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Don’t get too tired wouldnt want you to miss your flight back to Amman. Really anxious to see your creative work again
123. Creative Rules | January 6th, 2008 at 4:39 am
To the creative guys at Publicis,
Can you share with us all the other ads you’ve done for Jazeera? (post them to Zeid and he may show us) Or maybe even discribe them.
Maybe the whole campaign is built around a fat cow and this one just so happens to be giving birth to his udder.
Rami did you do this?
124. Creative Rules | January 7th, 2008 at 8:28 am
Biteme,
I’m Glad we’ve settled our stupid and ridiculous dispute in private and feel embarrassed that we’ve bored all our patient and good friends posting on this blog. (Allbeit being somewhat entertaining at times)
I am serious about whether the Jazeera campaign is centered around this cow however.
And a big hello to my old mate Rami. You guys are lucky to have him and I miss him alot.
Cheers
125. amre husseini | January 7th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Creative Rules…Thanks for your post and communication I sincerely appreciated it and am glad its over too!
have passed on your regards to Rami and thanks on his behalf he is an asset…much appreciated Peter!
126. amre husseini | January 7th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Hey Zeid…how come posts are now “moderated” when its supposed to be open for all comments?
127. Louai Alasfahani | February 12th, 2008 at 3:13 am
Not funny…Not good…try again
128. megatron | March 3rd, 2008 at 10:20 pm
i’m looking to travel
i liked the ad
it got my attention
ain’t that what its supposed to do?
129. HM Stieber | May 19th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
This got my attention, but I am not sure that is always good. Reading that someone found a finger in their food at an eating place gets my attention, but not in a good way.
While this isn’t quite as horrible, it is on the verge. The graphics are a bit tawdry - not in their visual, execution - I like the colors and the clean lines, but the bursting cow really lacks conceptual appeal. It doesn’t say fresh to me at all - perhaps an oversuppply, but not fresh, not professional.
I guess I (like Creative Rules) would like to know if it is part of some campaign. It may help me get my head around it a bit more, if I am in fact missing something.
Zeid - thanks for moderating. I would hope people could do that for themselves, but…
Maybe you need to have a sissy fighting section, away from the comments that are supposed to be about the work - where people can pull hair, scratch, and bite - continue to fight like girls!!
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